Comments on: How to win an argument http://thinkvitamin.com/business/how-to-win-an-argument/ The Web Practitioner's Blog Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Arsen http://thinkvitamin.com/business/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-410 Arsen Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:42:19 +0000 http://carsonified.com/biz-tips/how-to-win-an-argument#comment-410 I read that book when I was a kid and liked it very much, but then it somehow faded away. It is certainly a very reasonable book though. I read that book when I was a kid and liked it very much, but then it somehow faded away. It is certainly a very reasonable book though.

]]> By: David Armstrong http://thinkvitamin.com/business/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-409 David Armstrong Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:10:03 +0000 http://carsonified.com/biz-tips/how-to-win-an-argument#comment-409 I've read this book and also Getting to Yes!. Most of it is common sense, a good reminder to keep our emotions out of our decision making. btw..as a parent of three kids pre-teen, it is a wonderful discussion to have with your kids the lessons taught in these books...try it....it doesn't make them a pansy, it just sets them up to succeed. I’ve read this book and also Getting to Yes!. Most of it is common sense, a good reminder to keep our emotions out of our decision making. btw..as a parent of three kids pre-teen, it is a wonderful discussion to have with your kids the lessons taught in these books…try it….it doesn’t make them a pansy, it just sets them up to succeed.

]]> By: Simon http://thinkvitamin.com/business/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-408 Simon Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:00:51 +0000 http://carsonified.com/biz-tips/how-to-win-an-argument#comment-408 Yes but is it though Ryan? Is it, eh? EH!!!! Yes but is it though Ryan? Is it, eh? EH!!!!

]]> By: Daniel Schutzsmith http://thinkvitamin.com/business/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-407 Daniel Schutzsmith Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:23:48 +0000 http://carsonified.com/biz-tips/how-to-win-an-argument#comment-407 To take Ryan's point even further - the real lesson is that when you argue there is NO way of winning. In an argument you either don't make your case, or you do, and the other person then feels less good will toward you. I've been a follower of HTWF&IP for a while now and Ryan, I think I may have even mentioned some of the teachings to you when you were in NYC last year. The truth is that it is an easy book to read, but a hard one to live by. If you can master it then you will find your own peace and harmony in your relationships (both work and personal). Best of luck! To take Ryan’s point even further – the real lesson is that when you argue there is NO way of winning. In an argument you either don’t make your case, or you do, and the other person then feels less good will toward you.

I’ve been a follower of HTWF&IP for a while now and Ryan, I think I may have even mentioned some of the teachings to you when you were in NYC last year.

The truth is that it is an easy book to read, but a hard one to live by. If you can master it then you will find your own peace and harmony in your relationships (both work and personal).

Best of luck!

]]> By: Ken http://thinkvitamin.com/business/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-406 Ken Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:44:01 +0000 http://carsonified.com/biz-tips/how-to-win-an-argument#comment-406 Yes it is! No it's not! Yes, it is! Yes it is! No it’s not! Yes, it is!

]]> By: Mark http://thinkvitamin.com/business/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-405 Mark Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:09:43 +0000 http://carsonified.com/biz-tips/how-to-win-an-argument#comment-405 @ Rob - "I think it’s healthy, it’s what politicians do all the time." I know I want to model myself after politicians. I would get things done really fast and would end up with the best results in the end. @ Rob – “I think it’s healthy, it’s what politicians do all the time.”

I know I want to model myself after politicians. I would get things done really fast and would end up with the best results in the end.

]]> By: Blake P. http://thinkvitamin.com/business/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-404 Blake P. Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:57:06 +0000 http://carsonified.com/biz-tips/how-to-win-an-argument#comment-404 It is a great time of year to buy a book like that. Thanks for the recommendation. It is a great time of year to buy a book like that. Thanks for the recommendation.

]]> By: Ryan Carson http://thinkvitamin.com/business/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-403 Ryan Carson Thu, 04 Jan 2007 14:35:54 +0000 http://carsonified.com/biz-tips/how-to-win-an-argument#comment-403 <blockquote>If you’re not good at arguing then you probably do feel “you’ve lost the fight”, but that’s probably because you’re in it for the wrong reasons.</blockquote> Rob, I think you missed the point of the post. It has nothing to do with the YouSendIt-DropSend sale. The point is that it's better not to argue at all. Goodwill is often more important than "winning".

If you’re not good at arguing then you probably do feel “you’ve lost the fight”, but that’s probably because you’re in it for the wrong reasons.

Rob, I think you missed the point of the post. It has nothing to do with the YouSendIt-DropSend sale. The point is that it’s better not to argue at all. Goodwill is often more important than “winning”.

]]> By: Phil http://thinkvitamin.com/business/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-402 Phil Thu, 04 Jan 2007 13:43:14 +0000 http://carsonified.com/biz-tips/how-to-win-an-argument#comment-402 The title makes the book sound evil, but basically Dale Carnegie teaches common sense... don't be a jerk, be positive, and think of other people's interests. I highly recommend the Dale Carnegie courses, especially for it's public speaking aspect. The title makes the book sound evil, but basically Dale Carnegie teaches common sense… don’t be a jerk, be positive, and think of other people’s interests. I highly recommend the Dale Carnegie courses, especially for it’s public speaking aspect.

]]> By: Martin http://thinkvitamin.com/business/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-401 Martin Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:56:33 +0000 http://carsonified.com/biz-tips/how-to-win-an-argument#comment-401 I'd heard of the book but always thought it sounded like a bit of a joke until I saw someone highly recommend it on a site. So I read it and like you had lots of "a-ha!" moments when suddenly everything makes sense. It's fascinating stuff. I’d heard of the book but always thought it sounded like a bit of a joke until I saw someone highly recommend it on a site. So I read it and like you had lots of “a-ha!” moments when suddenly everything makes sense. It’s fascinating stuff.

]]> By: rob http://thinkvitamin.com/business/how-to-win-an-argument/#comment-400 rob Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:09:06 +0000 http://carsonified.com/biz-tips/how-to-win-an-argument#comment-400 Having just read the TechCrunch responses and now this I'm wondering if you're feeling a bit "got at" Ryan? I've been won over plenty of times by people arguing with me. I think it's healthy, it's what politicians do all the time. If you're not good at arguing then you probably do feel "you've lost the fight", but that's probably because you're in it for the wrong reasons. Arguments are two different positions being brought together by two people, and as such they're a good way of learning. "Heated agreements" are plain dull, although they may get you on your way quickly. If you don't like arguments/debates/discussions/battles I think you need to give up running your business and go work in Tesco - but you'd be too good for that. Toughen up, Ryan, as another poster on techcrunch stated you're starting to come across as naive and just a little dumb. Maybe you need to win a few arguments! Having just read the TechCrunch responses and now this I’m wondering if you’re feeling a bit “got at” Ryan? I’ve been won over plenty of times by people arguing with me. I think it’s healthy, it’s what politicians do all the time. If you’re not good at arguing then you probably do feel “you’ve lost the fight”, but that’s probably because you’re in it for the wrong reasons. Arguments are two different positions being brought together by two people, and as such they’re a good way of learning. “Heated agreements” are plain dull, although they may get you on your way quickly.
If you don’t like arguments/debates/discussions/battles I think you need to give up running your business and go work in Tesco – but you’d be too good for that. Toughen up, Ryan, as another poster on techcrunch stated you’re starting to come across as naive and just a little dumb. Maybe you need to win a few arguments!

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