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		<title>By: Brett Widmann</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-38574</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Widmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting article. Apps are definitely the new thing. </description>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19805</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 07:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we see two types of behaviors that are somewhat clashing: browsing and connecting.

The web was designed for browsing. 
Now we want to connect more but the web is not designed for connecting. This is why the Facebook web page does not feel &quot;right&quot;. 

Mobile apps are free from the web browsing model, free from the &quot;sit at your computer&quot; model, and have therefore an opportunity to connect better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we see two types of behaviors that are somewhat clashing: browsing and connecting.</p>
<p>The web was designed for browsing.<br />
Now we want to connect more but the web is not designed for connecting. This is why the Facebook web page does not feel &#8220;right&#8221;. </p>
<p>Mobile apps are free from the web browsing model, free from the &#8220;sit at your computer&#8221; model, and have therefore an opportunity to connect better.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Mackenzie</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19699</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Mackenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, cheers for the post. I&#039;ve been thinking about this a fair bit lately. 

From the point of view of a web designer/developer, I can&#039;t deny that there is a shift of focus in the air. Using the web, with a conventional mouse and keyboard is already starting to feel archaic when you compare the experience to a touch screen.

I think the introduction of higher res hand-held devices like the iPad are going to impact the industry I work in (web), but as you said, this can be in a positive way.

IMO practitioners that clutch to the traditional web experience will be left behind. Maybe not now, but within the next 2-3 years.

At the end of the day we&#039;re creating experiences for &#039;users&#039; and if it turns out that 80% of people choose mobile over traditional web, then I know where I&#039;m going to be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, cheers for the post. I&#8217;ve been thinking about this a fair bit lately. </p>
<p>From the point of view of a web designer/developer, I can&#8217;t deny that there is a shift of focus in the air. Using the web, with a conventional mouse and keyboard is already starting to feel archaic when you compare the experience to a touch screen.</p>
<p>I think the introduction of higher res hand-held devices like the iPad are going to impact the industry I work in (web), but as you said, this can be in a positive way.</p>
<p>IMO practitioners that clutch to the traditional web experience will be left behind. Maybe not now, but within the next 2-3 years.</p>
<p>At the end of the day we&#8217;re creating experiences for &#8216;users&#8217; and if it turns out that 80% of people choose mobile over traditional web, then I know where I&#8217;m going to be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Bartel</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19667</link>
		<dc:creator>Maximilian Bartel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion using apps on a mobile device such as the iPhone for example definitely is a better experience. 

However, this kind of device got special requirements as well, most of all due to the size of the screen itself which could be one of the reasons why a regular website such as facebook for example doesn&#039;t work well. (Admittedly, the user experience of facebook isn&#039;t better on a larger screen either)

This said I think right now and probably even in the future, both will complement each other and so it&#039;s definitely a chance for designers, especially if the technology gap will be closed by HTML5 and CSS3 sometime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion using apps on a mobile device such as the iPhone for example definitely is a better experience. </p>
<p>However, this kind of device got special requirements as well, most of all due to the size of the screen itself which could be one of the reasons why a regular website such as facebook for example doesn&#8217;t work well. (Admittedly, the user experience of facebook isn&#8217;t better on a larger screen either)</p>
<p>This said I think right now and probably even in the future, both will complement each other and so it&#8217;s definitely a chance for designers, especially if the technology gap will be closed by HTML5 and CSS3 sometime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Bowyer</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19666</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Bowyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 07:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things:

1. You forget to mentiont hat the mobile landscape is fragmented when it comes to apps. Developing the same app for the iPhone and Android is doable (though repeating some code); beyond that - no thanks.

2. Burst that tech-geek bubble and get out into the real world and see how many people are (NOT) using iPhones/Androids. It&#039;s rather a lot of people. Here in the UK the only place I&#039;ve seen a take-up that would make me choose an app over a webapp was in central London, and quite a few were Blackberry devices.

Yes, an app&#039;s interface can be very polished, and browsers/webapp developers need easy ways to leverage an improved UI (and gain for free what a phone can give). But does that say the end of the web app? I think not...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things:</p>
<p>1. You forget to mentiont hat the mobile landscape is fragmented when it comes to apps. Developing the same app for the iPhone and Android is doable (though repeating some code); beyond that &#8211; no thanks.</p>
<p>2. Burst that tech-geek bubble and get out into the real world and see how many people are (NOT) using iPhones/Androids. It&#8217;s rather a lot of people. Here in the UK the only place I&#8217;ve seen a take-up that would make me choose an app over a webapp was in central London, and quite a few were Blackberry devices.</p>
<p>Yes, an app&#8217;s interface can be very polished, and browsers/webapp developers need easy ways to leverage an improved UI (and gain for free what a phone can give). But does that say the end of the web app? I think not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: WpFolios</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19661</link>
		<dc:creator>WpFolios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 06:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow cool post, love the app designs...saw same post on webdesigner wall.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow cool post, love the app designs&#8230;saw same post on webdesigner wall.com</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19655</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an intresting article, and I do agree with the most part of what you have commented on. Just last week I was reading an article on how Google predict that within a few years time, desktop will infact migrate to mobile. This is just a sugestion, and I am excited as it will bring a lot more oppertunities to users, and the developers making these apps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an intresting article, and I do agree with the most part of what you have commented on. Just last week I was reading an article on how Google predict that within a few years time, desktop will infact migrate to mobile. This is just a sugestion, and I am excited as it will bring a lot more oppertunities to users, and the developers making these apps.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19652</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 02:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of heralding the death of the web, I wish the author had championed the potential of web applications. Where I work, we considered developing an iPhone app (and may still do so) but realized that our content needs to meets the needs an increasingly fragmented mobile ecosystem. A web app is the way to do that. It&#039;s true that downloadable apps have their place and can often offer a superior experience. But by endorsing native applications over the web, you are effectively promoting closed ecosystems that promote lock-in by the various mobile companies. 

Of course, Apple, Google, Microsoft and other like native mobile apps. Native apps encourage their users not to abandon their products. But they are not cost-effective to produce for multiple platforms. And they do not encourage rapid development or iterations. 

Like others here, I would rather see us embrace the open mobile web and promote web technologies and standards. Already we are seeing a fragmentation in browsers (WebKit vs non-Webkit) that is bad for users and developers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of heralding the death of the web, I wish the author had championed the potential of web applications. Where I work, we considered developing an iPhone app (and may still do so) but realized that our content needs to meets the needs an increasingly fragmented mobile ecosystem. A web app is the way to do that. It&#8217;s true that downloadable apps have their place and can often offer a superior experience. But by endorsing native applications over the web, you are effectively promoting closed ecosystems that promote lock-in by the various mobile companies. </p>
<p>Of course, Apple, Google, Microsoft and other like native mobile apps. Native apps encourage their users not to abandon their products. But they are not cost-effective to produce for multiple platforms. And they do not encourage rapid development or iterations. </p>
<p>Like others here, I would rather see us embrace the open mobile web and promote web technologies and standards. Already we are seeing a fragmentation in browsers (WebKit vs non-Webkit) that is bad for users and developers.</p>
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		<title>By: Brunno Gomes</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19630</link>
		<dc:creator>Brunno Gomes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly.

The apps are just a new way of using the Web, not replace it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.</p>
<p>The apps are just a new way of using the Web, not replace it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brunno Gomes</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19629</link>
		<dc:creator>Brunno Gomes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course!

It&#039;s just a matter of time (actually a matter of the increase of usage) before the apps get advertising too.</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s just a matter of time (actually a matter of the increase of usage) before the apps get advertising too.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Sofineti</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19624</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Sofineti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second Dave on this. The more platforms are coming out every day, it won&#039;t make sense to have an app for iPhone, another one for BB, yet another for Android, Windows Phone 7, Palm if they will survive, etc...

I do see a bright future for mobile web! I&#039;m looking forward to the time when third world countries can join in, trough affordable smart phones!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Dave on this. The more platforms are coming out every day, it won&#8217;t make sense to have an app for iPhone, another one for BB, yet another for Android, Windows Phone 7, Palm if they will survive, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I do see a bright future for mobile web! I&#8217;m looking forward to the time when third world countries can join in, trough affordable smart phones!</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Markham</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19619</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave you hit the exact point of why people are choosing the mobile versions. It is the fact that these apps are locked to a single device that allows the user experience to be so optimized so much more than the generic web. I agree and it saddens me to see this happen as well because it feels like a step backwards. Like the browser wars all over again. The point is that without standards on the web the experience can not reach the level attainable by apps and for users (including my self) if there is a better experience that is where they are going to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave you hit the exact point of why people are choosing the mobile versions. It is the fact that these apps are locked to a single device that allows the user experience to be so optimized so much more than the generic web. I agree and it saddens me to see this happen as well because it feels like a step backwards. Like the browser wars all over again. The point is that without standards on the web the experience can not reach the level attainable by apps and for users (including my self) if there is a better experience that is where they are going to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Klein</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19615</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mostly agree with this, but this isn&#039;t just limited to mobile apps. Some desktop apps blow their counterpart websites out of the water.  I recently started using Twitter and Facebook again thanks to TweetDeck (which is totally sweet.) It&#039;s all of what I want from these programs without any ads or crap I don&#039;t want.

The challenge for businesses in the future will be how to give people web services and still make money off of them. If everybody uses the ad free app, how does the proprietor still make money without compromising simplified the user experience people obviously want.

Another thing to consider is the fact Google is making a big push for fiber optic networks that blows todays ISP service out of the water to the tune of 100ish times the speed. If this gains steam (c&#039;mon, it&#039;s Google, it&#039;ll gain steam), we could, in a short period of time, have online Photoshop and 3D Animation type programs at our fingertips. I don&#039;t know about you, but there is no way in hell I&#039;d do any real design work or animation on a phone. A browser app though, sure, I&#039;d try it.

Long story short, I think many desktop apps may take a hit, traditional websites with better functionality might take their market share, and mobile will quickly crest (in 2-3 years). There&#039;s only so much crap you want to do on your phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mostly agree with this, but this isn&#8217;t just limited to mobile apps. Some desktop apps blow their counterpart websites out of the water.  I recently started using Twitter and Facebook again thanks to TweetDeck (which is totally sweet.) It&#8217;s all of what I want from these programs without any ads or crap I don&#8217;t want.</p>
<p>The challenge for businesses in the future will be how to give people web services and still make money off of them. If everybody uses the ad free app, how does the proprietor still make money without compromising simplified the user experience people obviously want.</p>
<p>Another thing to consider is the fact Google is making a big push for fiber optic networks that blows todays ISP service out of the water to the tune of 100ish times the speed. If this gains steam (c&#8217;mon, it&#8217;s Google, it&#8217;ll gain steam), we could, in a short period of time, have online Photoshop and 3D Animation type programs at our fingertips. I don&#8217;t know about you, but there is no way in hell I&#8217;d do any real design work or animation on a phone. A browser app though, sure, I&#8217;d try it.</p>
<p>Long story short, I think many desktop apps may take a hit, traditional websites with better functionality might take their market share, and mobile will quickly crest (in 2-3 years). There&#8217;s only so much crap you want to do on your phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Henk Duivendrecht</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19609</link>
		<dc:creator>Henk Duivendrecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When apps start charging a subscription fee, like the New York Journal on the iPad ($18 a month!!) the web won&#039;t dwindle in popularity any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When apps start charging a subscription fee, like the New York Journal on the iPad ($18 a month!!) the web won&#8217;t dwindle in popularity any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Samoo</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19607</link>
		<dc:creator>Samoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point of view but, the way I see it, your article is not really about web vs apps, but rather about laptops vs mobile devices. 
So the web is not dead or dying, it might be just &quot;reincanating&quot; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point of view but, the way I see it, your article is not really about web vs apps, but rather about laptops vs mobile devices.<br />
So the web is not dead or dying, it might be just &#8220;reincanating&#8221; :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Marmolejos</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19605</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose Marmolejos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being advertisement their main source of revenue, don&#039;t you think it&#039;s a matter of time before the app starts showing its share of banner ads?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being advertisement their main source of revenue, don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s a matter of time before the app starts showing its share of banner ads?</p>
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		<title>By: tiana</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19604</link>
		<dc:creator>tiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking about this just the other day. I have found myself checking email/facebook/twitter on my iphone while sitting at my computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking about this just the other day. I have found myself checking email/facebook/twitter on my iphone while sitting at my computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Alejandro Ñañez</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19603</link>
		<dc:creator>Alejandro Ñañez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! I really enjoy your article, I agree with you about Facebook and Twitter Apps, Now I&#039;m using Echofon on my iPod Touch and I really love it, I just get lost on twitter&#039;s web site it&#039;s kind of confusing you know...

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

By the way I&#039;m from Colombia and you have one more follower on twitter ;)

See U!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! I really enjoy your article, I agree with you about Facebook and Twitter Apps, Now I&#8217;m using Echofon on my iPod Touch and I really love it, I just get lost on twitter&#8217;s web site it&#8217;s kind of confusing you know&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your thoughts!</p>
<p>By the way I&#8217;m from Colombia and you have one more follower on twitter ;)</p>
<p>See U!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Smith</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19598</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good article Rob thanks for bringing it up. I&#039;m not sure it was mentioned (I skim read a bit fast) but there&#039;s a large commercial benefit to mobile websites vs apps for smaller companies. The investment required to produce an iPhone/Android/Upcoming other platforms from Nokia takes a lot of time and therefore cash. 

On the other hand a mobile website that&#039;s designed specifically for mobile can be much more cost effective.

Take Japan for instance. Mobile phone use has always been years ahead there than in the US or UK and for years companies have been deploying effective mobile applications over what is effectively an advanced version of WAP and driving revenue on small handsets. 

If people return to the point of what they are trying to achieve with mobile and not being gimicky with apps, then I think mobile websites would increase in popularity.

Campaign monitor created an effective mobile app using jQuery Touch so it&#039;s browser based and works like a native iPhone app and is perfect to use. You can even create an application icon for it that boots up Safari - now that&#039;s cost effective stuff.

For more info on mobile and an article I wrote (sorry I know I wrote it but I believe it&#039;s related and of value like this article) on planning mobile marketing, there&#039;s an article on wise marketer (needs free registration but it&#039;s a great site), here: http://bit.ly/bcKoDb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good article Rob thanks for bringing it up. I&#8217;m not sure it was mentioned (I skim read a bit fast) but there&#8217;s a large commercial benefit to mobile websites vs apps for smaller companies. The investment required to produce an iPhone/Android/Upcoming other platforms from Nokia takes a lot of time and therefore cash. </p>
<p>On the other hand a mobile website that&#8217;s designed specifically for mobile can be much more cost effective.</p>
<p>Take Japan for instance. Mobile phone use has always been years ahead there than in the US or UK and for years companies have been deploying effective mobile applications over what is effectively an advanced version of WAP and driving revenue on small handsets. </p>
<p>If people return to the point of what they are trying to achieve with mobile and not being gimicky with apps, then I think mobile websites would increase in popularity.</p>
<p>Campaign monitor created an effective mobile app using jQuery Touch so it&#8217;s browser based and works like a native iPhone app and is perfect to use. You can even create an application icon for it that boots up Safari &#8211; now that&#8217;s cost effective stuff.</p>
<p>For more info on mobile and an article I wrote (sorry I know I wrote it but I believe it&#8217;s related and of value like this article) on planning mobile marketing, there&#8217;s an article on wise marketer (needs free registration but it&#8217;s a great site), here: <a href="http://bit.ly/bcKoDb" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bcKoDb</a></p>
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		<title>By: Addy</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19591</link>
		<dc:creator>Addy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries at all.   Btw  your site (corporate url carsonified) is KILLER, just took some time to appreciate it.   It&#039;s so important to have your own style, and judging from your stuff it must have taken some good honest work and dedication to cultivate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries at all.   Btw  your site (corporate url carsonified) is KILLER, just took some time to appreciate it.   It&#8217;s so important to have your own style, and judging from your stuff it must have taken some good honest work and dedication to cultivate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Iain Broome</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19586</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain Broome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What using an iPhone to browse the web and use apps has shown me is that it&#039;s quite possible to have alternative, highly usable versions of the same content. It&#039;s given me a choice that wasn&#039;t really there before, which, I reckon, is pretty awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What using an iPhone to browse the web and use apps has shown me is that it&#8217;s quite possible to have alternative, highly usable versions of the same content. It&#8217;s given me a choice that wasn&#8217;t really there before, which, I reckon, is pretty awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Mills</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19585</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Stephan,

Although my article above does use social networking as the example I do also prefer the apps for eBay, I Love Film and Amazon too instead of their corresponding websites. But, I would still use their websites more than I would the sites for Twitter and Facebook.

Rob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Stephan,</p>
<p>Although my article above does use social networking as the example I do also prefer the apps for eBay, I Love Film and Amazon too instead of their corresponding websites. But, I would still use their websites more than I would the sites for Twitter and Facebook.</p>
<p>Rob.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Mills</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19584</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Addy,

Glad it caught your attention :) Thanks for commenting.

Rob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Addy,</p>
<p>Glad it caught your attention :) Thanks for commenting.</p>
<p>Rob.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Mills</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19583</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt,

Good point. I think advertising on the Facebook app would spoil it somewhat.

I too get frustrated with the adverts on the website and all of the &#039;reconnect to person x&#039; etc. I think that probably is a large part of why I turn to the app first, for now at least.

Rob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt,</p>
<p>Good point. I think advertising on the Facebook app would spoil it somewhat.</p>
<p>I too get frustrated with the adverts on the website and all of the &#8216;reconnect to person x&#8217; etc. I think that probably is a large part of why I turn to the app first, for now at least.</p>
<p>Rob.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Mills</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19582</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys.

Hmmmmm, perhaps it wasn&#039;t the best turn of phrase for me to use :)

Rob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys.</p>
<p>Hmmmmm, perhaps it wasn&#8217;t the best turn of phrase for me to use :)</p>
<p>Rob.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Mills</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19581</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dave,

Thanks for your comments. I haven&#039;t used touch.facebook.com but will check it out and try to comment soon.

Thanks

Rob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dave,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments. I haven&#8217;t used touch.facebook.com but will check it out and try to comment soon.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Rob.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Ranck</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19578</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Ranck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting theory here Rob and in the current landscape, I think you&#039;re correct. Unfortunately in the near future I don&#039;t think that will be the case. As web technologies continue to catch up with application technologies, you will see more and more similarities between the two. With the emergence of HTML 5/CSS3 and developers gaining a better grasp of AJAX, applications will begin to become obsolete and everything will move towards web-based. You&#039;re already beginning to see this in some places (e.g. Google Voice) as well as being used to get around proprietary app stores. The catch for corporations will be the fact that you can usually charge for applications where as they&#039;re still figuring out how to charge for the web. Maybe as the web becomes more application-like that will change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting theory here Rob and in the current landscape, I think you&#8217;re correct. Unfortunately in the near future I don&#8217;t think that will be the case. As web technologies continue to catch up with application technologies, you will see more and more similarities between the two. With the emergence of HTML 5/CSS3 and developers gaining a better grasp of AJAX, applications will begin to become obsolete and everything will move towards web-based. You&#8217;re already beginning to see this in some places (e.g. Google Voice) as well as being used to get around proprietary app stores. The catch for corporations will be the fact that you can usually charge for applications where as they&#8217;re still figuring out how to charge for the web. Maybe as the web becomes more application-like that will change.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Gustavo Xavier</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19576</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Gustavo Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inciting title, Rob.
As much as some people might be a little protective of the old ways (understandable!) the naked truth is that there&#039;s a shift in motion. 
Users have realized that most of their needs can be tackled using simplified, focused solutions that take all the clutter of the so called traditional web and translate into well functioning apps with really good user experience.
It&#039;s really interesting to see some of the mobile inovations feeding the web and vice versa. It&#039;s like the old metaphor of the kid that only gets better when he gets his ass kicked by the big bully.
Long live the mobile big bully kid.
Congrats on the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inciting title, Rob.<br />
As much as some people might be a little protective of the old ways (understandable!) the naked truth is that there&#8217;s a shift in motion.<br />
Users have realized that most of their needs can be tackled using simplified, focused solutions that take all the clutter of the so called traditional web and translate into well functioning apps with really good user experience.<br />
It&#8217;s really interesting to see some of the mobile inovations feeding the web and vice versa. It&#8217;s like the old metaphor of the kid that only gets better when he gets his ass kicked by the big bully.<br />
Long live the mobile big bully kid.<br />
Congrats on the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlinton</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19574</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we are going to the wrong side..

We do not have to change the web to fit in iPhones, iPads and etc, this itens must change to fit the web. Its impossible keep many versions of an page online and updated, it reminds me when we have one site to each navigator agent.

The wolrd of moment for me its make all Standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are going to the wrong side..</p>
<p>We do not have to change the web to fit in iPhones, iPads and etc, this itens must change to fit the web. Its impossible keep many versions of an page online and updated, it reminds me when we have one site to each navigator agent.</p>
<p>The wolrd of moment for me its make all Standard.</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone Lover</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/code/bye-bye-web-hello-apps/#comment-19572</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love iPhone &amp; most apps.  Barely use the laptop anymore.

However, I&#039;m not necessarily a fan of mobile sites.  Biggest gripe are websites that &quot;force you&quot; into their mobile versions without a choice or a clear, easy-to-spot link (which should always be right at the top) to exit them quickly (such as Amazon &amp; YouTube, grrr!)  That right there should be a HUGE No-No to website owners, ie:

Do Not take away my freedom to choose whether I want your regular site or your mobile version.  Often, a regular site is much preferable since I can &quot;pinch &amp; zoom&quot; my way around it. 

When it comes to Twitter, though, the apps are great.

(Since I spend so much time using iPhone for everything, when I do have to use the laptop again, I noticed it is so much harder to use the mouse since I am now totally &quot;touch-trained&quot; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love iPhone &#038; most apps.  Barely use the laptop anymore.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m not necessarily a fan of mobile sites.  Biggest gripe are websites that &#8220;force you&#8221; into their mobile versions without a choice or a clear, easy-to-spot link (which should always be right at the top) to exit them quickly (such as Amazon &#038; YouTube, grrr!)  That right there should be a HUGE No-No to website owners, ie:</p>
<p>Do Not take away my freedom to choose whether I want your regular site or your mobile version.  Often, a regular site is much preferable since I can &#8220;pinch &#038; zoom&#8221; my way around it. </p>
<p>When it comes to Twitter, though, the apps are great.</p>
<p>(Since I spend so much time using iPhone for everything, when I do have to use the laptop again, I noticed it is so much harder to use the mouse since I am now totally &#8220;touch-trained&#8221; :)</p>
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