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	<title>Comments on: Introducing Atlas: A Visual Development Tool for Creating Web Apps</title>
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		<title>By: Jet</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/web-apps/introducing-atlas-a-visual-development-tool-for-creating-web-apps/#comment-20641</link>
		<dc:creator>Jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 11:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some of us, that sort of verbosity makes the language easy to understand, and fun to use. YMMV.  Cappuccino brought exactly what we love about objective-c and cocoa to javascript.  That was the point.  If you don&#039;t like that, that&#039;s understandable, but that&#039;s also contrary to the design goals.  If you don&#039;t like the status quo of cocoa-style programming, you&#039;re barking up the wrong tree with cappuccino.

You sound like something along the lines of SproutCore would be more up your alley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some of us, that sort of verbosity makes the language easy to understand, and fun to use. YMMV.  Cappuccino brought exactly what we love about objective-c and cocoa to javascript.  That was the point.  If you don&#8217;t like that, that&#8217;s understandable, but that&#8217;s also contrary to the design goals.  If you don&#8217;t like the status quo of cocoa-style programming, you&#8217;re barking up the wrong tree with cappuccino.</p>
<p>You sound like something along the lines of SproutCore would be more up your alley.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/web-apps/introducing-atlas-a-visual-development-tool-for-creating-web-apps/#comment-16601</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like delphi a decade ago, only with obj c. No thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like delphi a decade ago, only with obj c. No thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Zimok</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/web-apps/introducing-atlas-a-visual-development-tool-for-creating-web-apps/#comment-16046</link>
		<dc:creator>Zimok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whops. Didn&#039;t see that.
Hoping price woun&#039;t raise up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whops. Didn&#8217;t see that.<br />
Hoping price woun&#8217;t raise up.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/web-apps/introducing-atlas-a-visual-development-tool-for-creating-web-apps/#comment-15672</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks absolutely brilliant!  But another reason why web apps haven&#039;t taken over is because a lot of people don&#039;t have constant access to high speed broadband, and need desktop apps to do a lot of the work.  Once this issue is resolved, then web apps will really take off - but good to see this can do desktop as well as web app development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks absolutely brilliant!  But another reason why web apps haven&#8217;t taken over is because a lot of people don&#8217;t have constant access to high speed broadband, and need desktop apps to do a lot of the work.  Once this issue is resolved, then web apps will really take off &#8211; but good to see this can do desktop as well as web app development.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>280 North is making some really cool stuff, but I don&#039;t know why they took Javascript and just made it look like another language (Objective-C). Why not just make a great toolset for Javascript and keep it pure, rather than trying to turn it into another language?

Coming from a design background with HTML/CSS/Javascript, and the server side with Ruby, I find Objective-C to be ridiculously verbose and not fun to code in at all, which has been my big barrier to writing Mac apps (c&#039;mon MacRuby!). Cappuccino just puts that same barrier in front of web development as well. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>280 North is making some really cool stuff, but I don&#8217;t know why they took Javascript and just made it look like another language (Objective-C). Why not just make a great toolset for Javascript and keep it pure, rather than trying to turn it into another language?</p>
<p>Coming from a design background with HTML/CSS/Javascript, and the server side with Ruby, I find Objective-C to be ridiculously verbose and not fun to code in at all, which has been my big barrier to writing Mac apps (c&#8217;mon MacRuby!). Cappuccino just puts that same barrier in front of web development as well. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco Tolmasky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francisco Tolmasky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did use 280 Slides for my slide show, that&#039;s why I was using the PlainView full screen browser (which decided to do an update check in the middle of the presentation as you can see: http://www.barbariangroup.com/software/plainview). I find it amazing that I really have to explicitly state this every time or people don&#039;t notice. A function of having done a good job I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did use 280 Slides for my slide show, that&#8217;s why I was using the PlainView full screen browser (which decided to do an update check in the middle of the presentation as you can see: <a href="http://www.barbariangroup.com/software/plainview)" rel="nofollow">http://www.barbariangroup.com/software/plainview)</a>. I find it amazing that I really have to explicitly state this every time or people don&#8217;t notice. A function of having done a good job I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: jonathanstark</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonathanstark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atlas looks sick, and I&#039;m signing up. But, did anyone else find it odd that Francisco didn&#039;t use 280 Slides for his slideshow? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atlas looks sick, and I&#8217;m signing up. But, did anyone else find it odd that Francisco didn&#8217;t use 280 Slides for his slideshow? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivek Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

please tell me the to get that tool its really awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>please tell me the to get that tool its really awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Ryland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Ryland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s too late, but you might want to set the barrier to beta a bit higher to avoid all the pure tire kickers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s too late, but you might want to set the barrier to beta a bit higher to avoid all the pure tire kickers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio Salazar Cardozo</title>
		<link>http://thinkvitamin.com/web-apps/introducing-atlas-a-visual-development-tool-for-creating-web-apps/#comment-15629</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonio Salazar Cardozo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re being very clear that $20 will be the cost of the beta, and that it is completely unrelated to the cost of the final product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re being very clear that $20 will be the cost of the beta, and that it is completely unrelated to the cost of the final product.</p>
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